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![]() Yesterday a new movement called No Labels was launched founded on the credo of “Not left. Not right. Forward”. I know this sounds like political platitudes because we can all agree that “forward” is the right approach, broadly speaking, but what this movement is attempting to do is give support to the millions of independents, and even partisans who want a more civil political discourse. And more importantly, it gives them an organizing structure to rally around that the current two-party system does not offer. Following the conference via webcast (the Midwest snow storm kept me bunkered down in Chicago), I came away with two ways that No Labels is trying to achieve its mission. First and foremost, this movement is about changing the culture of American politics. A culture that allows vitriol and contempt to be featured on the 24 hour news cycle, a culture that rewards extremism in closed primary elections, a culture that asks what’s best for building up Republicans and Democrats. As Congressman Tom Davis said in a backstage interview at today’s launch event at Columbia University in New York City, when an elected official steps of their political box, “they get ambushed in a primary”. In other words, political compromise isn’t rewarded, and never-mind if you’ve supported your party 95% of the time. Just look at what happened to Mike Castle who ran for Senate in Delaware (who came out in support of open primaries on a No Labels panel on electoral reform). President Obama understood that the American public is fed-up with hyper-partisanship and ran much of his campaign on the message of changing the way business is done in Washington. I’m reminded of his words that “[t]here is not a liberal America and a conservative America, there’s the United States of America”. It still gives me chills and makes my heart skip a beat for what we need so badly in politics today - civility. But parties and the individuals who represent them are often beholden to the system of hyper-partisanship that rules the day. That’s why No Labels is so important – finally there is a movement of grassroots and grasstops leaders who want to be bridge-builders and are committed to celebrating politicians who do the same. The President, while being the nation’s leader is also a Democrat and so that may make the reality of bridge-building more difficult for him, then say a citizens' movement of Independents and civil Democrats and Republicans. In addition to changing the political culture, there was a good discussion on several issues though I think one bucket of issues stood out more than others - election reform, specifically the rules of redistricting that allows states to gerrymander districts, and in effect, foster a very extreme debate between very left-wing and very right-wing candidates. A policy solution that was discussed at length during one of the sessions was about open-primaries and how this type of system changed the incentive structure to value understanding of all voters, not just the party loyalists who usually drum the loudest beat. I caught-up with David after the No Labels launch (which he attended) and I asked him to choose one strategy above all that would help move us beyond hyper-partisanship: “Modern citizenship is about understanding when labels matter and when they don’t; when party loyalty matters and when it doesn’t. The bottom line is this: if we don’t breakdown the cultural barriers that prevent independents, liberals and conservatives from having a civil discourse with one another, then our country will not be able to solve the imminent problems that face us today.” No Labels has set out the ambitious goal (among many) of establishing meet-ups in every congressional district to allow people from all political persuasions to come together and not only discuss politics and policies, but also help elected politicians who put public service before party. Could this be the start of a new kind of American politics? What do you think? Is changing culture the first-step? Or is it electoral issues like open primaries and redistricting reform? ______ Piece contributed by NCoC.net commentator Karlo Barrios Marcelo, CEO of Karlo Marcelo Consulting, LLC. If you like this kind of content, sign up for an NCoC.net account and we'll customize your homepage recommendations based on your interests..
By Anonymous at 11:51 AM on Dec 14th, 2010
I'm sorry to see you buying into this...political pundits, elected officials and the top 10% of engaged Americans care about the rancor and divisiveness...but most of America cares about the fact that they're consistently getting screwed over by a system overrun with money and moneyed interests.
The question is what is the systemic cause of the division. It's not that people today are less polite or less respectful than in the past...which means waxing nostalgic about civility isn't going to do anything. Clinton spent years literally being accused of orchestrating the murder of one of his aides. The decibel level is high because inequality is so large, because significant legislation is actually being passed and because of a corporate, for-profit, partisan driven media. A handful of leaders trying to commit to more respectful dialogue isn't going to change any of that. By Casey at 12:03 PM on Dec 14th, 2010
I disagree that most of America doesn't care about the rancor/divisiveness. I'm not any of the categories you mention but I care deeply about the way politicians are acting toward each other and how it reflects on their subsequent actions-- the lack of civil dialogue (ie. basic respect) the underlying cause of the whole broken system. If civility isn't the first step, what is?
Anon - Thanks for taking the time to read this and provide your feedback. I agree that money and moneyed interests are part of the problem but I disagree that only pundits, electeds and the top 10% are the only ones that care about rancor and divisiveness. I think that the "rest of America" feels left out of politics, and are voluntarily disengaging from the process. I brought up the issue of open primaries and election reform (and certainly money can be brought into this though I didn't write about it above), because those structures allow only for extreme views to be raised during a primary campaign. You know how it works...play strong to your base in the primary and then go more moderate during the general. What we don't get from this is an accurate portrait of what these candidates really stand for since they must adopt different strategies depending on the campaign.
And you are so right that inequality is growing in America and while policy needs to address this fact, if the disengaged and opposition don't buy into these policy changes, then while we might change laws, we don't change the attitudes that people have. And we certainly don't affect the way these people raise their children with these attitudes. To be sure, changing political culture isn't a panacea but I believe it is at the core of what needs to change. By Anonymous at 12:26 PM on Dec 14th, 2010
So, I think where we disagree is about where the causality in the relationship is. I don't think rancor/divisiness are causing a less engaged, fed up public...I think inequality, changes in the media, and really significant governmental actions are causing the rancor/divisiness.
A change in tone among elected leaders would be great...but it's like using a really weak decongestant when you actually have pneumonia. It's not going to cause any harm and you may produce a slightly less amount of mucus for a few hours...but you're still sick and you're nose is still gonna run. By karlo at 1:23 PM on Dec 14th, 2010
anon - i like your analogy and could be persuaded that structural reform comes before culture change (I'd put electoral reform ahead of economic reform).
By Leticia at 12:06 AM on Dec 15th, 2010
I am at a loss as to how the No Labels organizers can accomplish what they claim to be trying to do. Campaign finance reform is so crucial to changing the American political discourse now dominated by relentless corporate-sponsored sound bites. However, the Supreme Court decision on the Citizens United case has demolished any possibility of any meaningful limit to corporate influence in local, state and national elections. The 5-4 split in decisions that lean toward strengthening the hand of corporations and of the wealthy few in the cases that come before the Supreme Court is almost guaranteed to continue for another 40 years because the Kennedy-Roberts-Alito-Scalia-Thomas ideological majority is likely to live that long, given the lengthy life span that being a Supreme Court justice appears to guarantee.
By Rich at 8:59 AM on Dec 15th, 2010
I think this is an interesting discussion...but as a self-identified progressive, I guess I struggle with No Labels because I think it assumes a false equivalency. I just don't seem the same level of disrepect, inflammatory accusations, baseless soundbites, etc. coming from the mainstream left.
Who are the equivalent figures on the left to match the vitriol, name-calling and adolescent dialogue of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, etc.? Sure, there is Kos and Olbermann, who you could argue get close, but their audiences are tiny comparatively. By Karlo at 2:10 PM on Dec 15th, 2010
Leticia - from what I understand, the No Labels game-plan looks much the same as an party apparatus - field organizing, fundraising and media. The difference is that instead of supporting the Tea Party or MoveOn, No Labels will give a platform and machinery that will help candidates who embrace civility (and they can be partisans but not hyper-partsians).
By Karlo at 2:18 PM on Dec 15th, 2010
Rich - I think if you ask your counterparts on the other-side, they'd argue that the media is undermining the values and policies they hold dear. I don't want to be so trite to say that it is a matter of perspective but I think that activists on both sides don't trust the other. The way to get around that is to have a space where dialog can happen and where elections aren't just about the party bases but independents, too. As Leticia points out in her comment above, the Citizens United decision allows both left and right to funnel large amounts of money into elections. Where does that leave independents and centrists?
By Rich at 3:32 PM on Dec 15th, 2010
Not quite sure where to go with this. I guess, two points.
(1) My point was not that media is undermining liberal values...but that the lack of civility in public discourse is much worse on the conservative side. I pointed to very popular and influential media figures who regularly spew hateful rhetoric. And I don't think the equivalent exists on the other side. Yes, conservatives would say that the media is liberal but not as uncivil, hateful, etc. Or maybe they would, but it wouldn't be true. And that's why I asked for mainstream figures as popular as Rush, Glenn, or Michael Savage that regularly are as nasty or uncivil as they are. Are there? Who are they? So, who is contributing to an uncivil discourse in the media? I think conservative media figures have a far worse record. Am I missing something? Actually, I'm just gonna stick with that for right now. By Karlo at 4:12 PM on Dec 15th, 2010
Rich - ah, sorry to been off the mark. I see your point about the rhetoric on the right...the only equivalent I can think of off the top of my head on the other side would be the left calling the right "racist". I'm not sure how often that happens, though. In terms of conservative media figures having a worse record, the example of Rush is pretty dead-on and I agree that Kos and Olberman aren't exactly in the same ilk as Coulter, Malkin and the rest. Then again, I've tuned-off of cable news for the most part because it's so much about theater and not substance. As a Millennial, I'll stick to the Daily Show and The News Hour.
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